Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Freewing F35






















This EDF plane is significant smaller in size from most EDF plane, GWS plane, Mirage 2000 .etc.
The stock included EDF 64 5 blades, in-runner brushless with a large heat sink.

No landing gear was designed for this tiny and I am tempted to build a steerable landing gear for her. The decal is superb in appearance.

2 servos for Delta setting of aileron and elevator.

RTF weight ~290g, without lipo. With all the landing gears and extra serovs, it weights 309g.
I put in a 2200mAH 3s lipo that weight 178g. Wing loading will be expected to be high. So landing should be done at relative higher speed.
The stock power system drew 28A@11.7V at full throttle, with thrust ~600g. EDF thrust to power ratio about 1.6g/W.

Thrust tube added- to reduce nose down turbulence due to low pressure zone above elevator , and to reduce exit nozzle 5 4mm. (stock 58mm resulted in high thrust but low terminal velocity)




Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Power Wire Gauge Table

AWG gauge Conductor
Diameter Inches
Conductor
Diameter mm
Ohms per 1000 ft. Ohms per km Maximum amps for chassis wiring Maximum amps for
power transmission
Maximum frequency for
100% skin depth for solid conductor copper
OOOO 0.46 11.684 0.049 0.16072 380 302 125 Hz
OOO 0.4096 10.40384 0.0618 0.202704 328 239 160 Hz
OO 0.3648 9.26592 0.0779 0.255512 283 190 200 Hz
0 0.3249 8.25246 0.0983 0.322424 245 150 250 Hz
1 0.2893 7.34822 0.1239 0.406392 211 119 325 Hz
2 0.2576 6.54304 0.1563 0.512664 181 94 410 Hz
3 0.2294 5.82676 0.197 0.64616 158 75 500 Hz
4 0.2043 5.18922 0.2485 0.81508 135 60 650 Hz
5 0.1819 4.62026 0.3133 1.027624 118 47 810 Hz
6 0.162 4.1148 0.3951 1.295928 101 37 1100 Hz
7 0.1443 3.66522 0.4982 1.634096 89 30 1300 Hz
8 0.1285 3.2639 0.6282 2.060496 73 24 1650 Hz
9 0.1144 2.90576 0.7921 2.598088 64 19 2050 Hz
10 0.1019 2.58826 0.9989 3.276392 55 15 2600 Hz
11 0.0907 2.30378 1.26 4.1328 47 12 3200 Hz
12 0.0808 2.05232 1.588 5.20864 41 9.3 4150 Hz
13 0.072 1.8288 2.003 6.56984 35 7.4 5300 Hz
14 0.0641 1.62814 2.525 8.282 32 5.9 6700 Hz
15 0.0571 1.45034 3.184 10.44352 28 4.7 8250 Hz
16 0.0508 1.29032 4.016 13.17248 22 3.7 11 k Hz
17 0.0453 1.15062 5.064 16.60992 19 2.9 13 k Hz
18 0.0403 1.02362 6.385 20.9428 16 2.3 17 kHz
19 0.0359 0.91186 8.051 26.40728 14 1.8 21 kHz
20 0.032 0.8128 10.15 33.292 11 1.5 27 kHz

Sunday, October 26, 2008

Bae Hawk Haoye

rcgroup thread


Powerful 6s setting


Change the elevator control to 2 servo control









































Some power system from web:
後推版:

1.550L KV1400+APC8x6E+11.1V

2.550S KV1700+APC7x5E+11.1V

90mm導風扇版:

1.HP90/5導風扇組+B2856 KV2300+14.8V+60A電變

2.FP90/7導風扇組+B3656 KV2600+14.8V+60A電變

3.FP90/7導風扇組+B3656 KV1800+18.5V+60A電變

4.FP90/7導風扇組+B3656 KV1500+22.2V+60A電變

5.RP900導風扇組+B3656 KV1500+22.2V+60A電變

70mm導風扇版(風扇筒身外繞一層泡綿)

1.RP70/5 導風扇組+B2856 KV2300+5S-LIPO(18.5V)+60A電變

2. RP70/5 導風扇組+B2856 KV3200+4S-LIPO(14.8V)+60A電變

3. RP70/5 導風扇組+B2845 KV3600+4S-LIPO(14.8V)+60A電變

4.RP700 導風扇組+B2856 KV2300+5S-LIPO(18.5V)+60A電變

5. RP700 導風扇組+B2856 KV3200+4S-LIPO(14.8V)+60A電變

6. RP700 導風扇組+B2845 KV3600+4S-LIPO(14.8V)+60A電變

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Fan sweept area (FSA)

68mm EDF with 32mm outer motor case diameter
80% FSA = 22.61mm sq
Exit nozzle = 54mm diamter

64mm EDF with 26mm outer motor case diamter
80% FSA
Exit nozzle = 52mm


Stock AMX : Exit nozzle 49mm diameter

EDF Facts

FACTS ABOUT EDF AERODYNAMICS
A clean intake lip is responsible for at least 20% of the total thrust!
An example: if one tests the Midi Fan without intake ring thrust decreases by about 20%. It is not the maximum size of the intake that counts, but the aerodynamic cleanness (bigger intake area with at the same time reduced turbulences due to intake ring). Additional intakes (cheater holes) should be resisted wherever possible.

Tailcones do not increase thrust!
Tailcones are not thought to increase thrust. Their task is rather to increase the efflux velocity so that the flying speed of the model can be maximized. The tail area corresponds to 90% of the ducted fan swept area.

Hint: A tailcone should be kept as short as possible. If the thrust tube between strators and outlet is longer then approximately 100mm, the tube should be the same diameter up to the outlet pipe.

Do I need a spinner?
Although it sound surprising, the spinner is not that important. So if you experience trouble, leave it off. If you have a bifurcated intake (example Super Sniper) it makes more sense to place a tube in the ducting the same diameter as the rotor hub and mount this in front of the rotor instead of a spinner. This is aerodynamically much cleaner (example Super Sniper).

Do I need a streamlined cone?
Not necessarily. Their influence is rather limited and with such a cone a motor runs hotter. Hot motors run less efficiently.
Rule of thumb: do not use a cone on small fans. On bigger fans it may make sense but do not expect miracles.

Any internal ducting should have a constant cross-sectional area over its whole length!
All cross-sectional changes in the internal ducting mean pressure changes, and with it acceleration and deceleration of the air. This should be avoided.
As much as possible the duct through the fuselage should be the same size (uniform cross sectional area) as the intake.

If a ducting needs to be widened, this should happen always smoothly at an angle of less than 4 degrees.

Position of the fan in the ducting
Aerodynamically there are not many differences whether you put the fan at the font or back of the ducting. But be aware of the following aspects:
- Critical wire length for brushless setups (in case the battery needs to be in the nose)
- CG
- Also in general fans runs smoother if they are placed towards the rear

A gap at the blade tip up to approx. 1.5mm is not harmful.
The airflow around the blade tips is always turbulent. Therefore a gap of up to 1.5mm for the big fans (>92mm, example Midi Fan) and 1mm for smaller fans (<92mm, example Mini Fan 480) does not influence the performance of the EDF. Only if the gap is bigger, you may realize losses in static thrust. Aeff, mentioned as part of the product specification, reflects this phenomenon.


FACTS ABOUT CHEATER HOLE

Do note that scale jet fighter designs usually have longer intake ducts which restrict static thrust at static. Some designers enlarge the intake or put cheater hole to recover this but these will cause some compensation at higher airspeeds. If you have a long runway, you can get away without all these features. For the same reason, full size jet flighter has auxiliary intake ports to draw more air during take-off which close up when speed builds up.

Power to weight ratio

  1. Align F16 @4s/35A 6x5.5 450W /690g ..... 650W/kg
  2. Mirage 2000 @4s/ 42A 68mmEDF 510W/850g ....510W/kg
  3. AMX 3s /30A 64mm EDF 340W/640g ... 530W/kg
  4. Freewing F35 3s/30A 64mm EDF 340W/420g... 710W/kg

EDF minimal 300W/kg, scale like 500W/kg, Jet like 700W/kg!!!

Sunday, October 05, 2008

Electrify TWM Nemesis 52

































Wingspan 1500mm
ARF weight 2 kg

There is huge space to place the lipo, electronics from ABOVE. The canopy can be opened and expose the front tank area.

I use 4 M4x80 mm screw and a stock motor mount. The aluminium motor mount is too weak and fractured on ground test just before the maiden. (subsequently confirmed to cause by the length of the 5mm motor shaft)

Power : 7sA123 (maybe 2p parallel to increase flight time) , 800kv BL (from my Helicopter Gaui Hurricane EP550) , 50A ESC. APC 10x 4E , current 40A.
Power ~ 950W.

Maiden flight
C.G. a bit forward. Very windy/easterly monsoon condition ~40kph.
Plane tends to stall at too slow speed especially turning against up wind.
10" propeller proves to be fast but low in thrust. Fourth flight results in stall and crash.
Should not be too difficult to repair as the wing and control surfaces are intact.

10/2008

Repair is not too difficult and completed in 4 hours. Now more than 20 flights.

Tail steerable wheel tends to bounce up and lost control on taxi. Resolved by pulling elevator stick to down a downthrust on the tail. Now using 10-6 gas engine propeller and performs similar to 10x5E.


Nov-2008

Second major crash, after flying an empty battery and a stall landing. Another rebuilt is going on....Even the motor shaft got broken and need replacement.

Friday, October 03, 2008

F-18大黃蜂





































F/A-18黃蜂式戰鬥攻擊機(F/A-18 "Hornet" Strike Fighter)是美國海軍所發展、一種專門針對航空母艦起降而開發的對空/對地雙用全天候戰機,它同時也是美國軍方第一架同時擁有戰鬥機與攻擊機身份的機種,對於空間有限、承載機隊數量不多的航空母艦而言,像F/A-18這種角色多變的泛用機種,是非常優秀的配屬選擇,也是目前美國海軍最重要的航艦搭載戰機。(from wiki)

Wt: 1130g (body only) + Electronic 200g + 360g lipo = 1600g flying weight!
May need to reduce weight further .. .
機長 : 1.5 米
翼展 : 1.1 米
EDF 68 x 2 stock fan is 4 blade, small pitch, high thrust. No duct fan housing !
ESC 35A x2
3s 2200mA x 2

Reason to buy: to investigate the retract system
Project stopped, waiting for a suitable power setup....as the stock fans are X#$%@....
It may take a lot of effort to enlarge the ducts to accomodate a reliable 68mm EDF. It will be easier to drop it 2 64mm EDF (total 1200g thrust) .